​In this episode, host Debbie Stadtler, sits down with Ted Goins, president and CEO of Lutheran Services Carolinas to discuss recruiting in long term care and the ongoing workforce shortage. They discuss Ted's career journey in long term care, and the impact of immigration, expanding education programs and changes in pay rates on the workforce shortage. Additionally, they delve into the challenges and benefits of international recruiting and Ted's insights on the short- and long-term outlook for the health care workforce.